Robert Malone on Joe Rogan discussing vaccine and covid
Long, somewhat meandering interview. Some highlights:
- Robert Malone gives his qualifications at the beginning. He studied at UCSD and Harvard, and worked in a lab with a lot of vacinologists. He was the inventor of part of mRNA vaccine technology at a lab studying gene therapy. He has gone through FDA regulatory process a lot.
- Lots of discussion of mixed incentives among tech, pharma, and government. One example he gives: he was banned from LinkedIn for pointing out that the Reuters and Pfizer have shared board members
- He claims a lot of the standard process for FDA approval was not followed for the Covid vaccines, eg. missing data. Don't remember the details on this point
- He describes data from Hassidic Jews about female menstrual cycles. He says Hassidic Jews closely track the menstrual cycle of all women in their congregation. He repeats data from a Hassidic Jewish community showing that the vaccine disrupted menstrual cycles of many/most of the women. He says this was the basis for Hassidic Jews strongly recommending against covid vaccine.
- He cites lab data showing that the mRNA vaccine particles show up in ovaries of mice. Same does not happen for testes of male mice
- Discussion of the spike protein that is present in the covid vaccine and also the covid virus. The spike protein has two parts, one which binds to ACE2 receptors and is probably what causes damage/long covid, and another which lets it penetrate cells and reproduce. Malone claims the vaccine modified the spike protein to not penetrate cells, but did not change the part that binds to ACE2 receptors. Hence vaccine side effects that are similar to long covid.
- Long discussion about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. He says it's inexplicable that these drugs were not being used to treat covid. Claims studies around ivermectin were set up to fail because of bad dosing methods. Says a province in India (Uttar Pradesh) had success with a drug cocktail that included ivermectin. He implies that this is because there is no profit incentive for ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.
- Discussion of covid financial incentives for hospitals. Claims hospitals receive ~$3,000 per covid case they treat (or diagnose?), and some more money under other conditions.
- He is outraged that discussion of this is being suppressed. Social media platforms don't allow discussion of anything that makes people vaccine hesitant, which includes factual discussion of vaccine risks
Overall pretty interesting. There is no big salacious claim about how the vaccines are terrible for you. A lot more subtle things about how typical FDA process wasn't/isn't being followed, financial incentives are likely to be corrupting the scientific process, and corporate financial incentives explain behaviors better than best medical practice.